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Re: Presidents cup was fun. Thank you Everett

Nathan Sexton
 

Thanks to all who helped with set up and takedown, thanks to Everett for another great presidents cup!


On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Eric Smith <inspectorsmith@...> wrote:
 

The Presidents Cup was AWESOME!!!!

 

From: wdgc@... [mailto:wdgc@...] On Behalf Of Everett Kaser
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:52 AM
To: evilhatechild
Subject: Re: [wdgc] Presidents cup was fun. Thank you Everett

 

 

evilhatechild wrote...
> Everett is the man...

You're too kind. Really. Makes me think you want something... :-)

> My favorite hole was tourney hole 18 (from 4's teepad to 2's basket).
> It was an exciting hole, just the thing that the women and children
> back home like to see.

Me, too. While I had a great day (enjoyment-wise), my playing sucked
wind, the kind of crap you'd expect to see from Kelly. BUT... on my
last hole of the day (the above mentioned #18, since I started on #1),
I threw the most beautiful forehand, level and straight as an arrow,
right through the gap and dropped it six feet from the basket. If
you can only have one good hole per day, having it be the final one
is probably best.

> No keg? Did no one give Mark an official invite?

Actually I did. After last year, when he barely made it because he
didn't hear about it until the day before, I made a point of calling
him this year and giving him a personal invite. He ended up having
another engagement he couldn't avoid.

> Thanks again Everett.

No, thank YOU, Mike, for loaning the use of your pop-up AND the
propane heater that helped keep me warm during the morning registration!

Also a big thanks to Dave Pittman, who helped me put out the temporary
tee-pads and signs, and who (even though he couldn't play) showed up
to help with the scoring, the pay-outs/scrip, and the discs, BIG help!

Another thanks to Inspector Smith and Kim Halsey for sticking around
and helping to round up a bunch of the signs and one of the tee-pads!

And, thanks to Jay, Nate and Kelly for the loan of their baskets!

It was a great day and a great group of people!

Everett

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Re: Presidents cup was fun. Thank you Everett

Eric Smith
 

The Presidents Cup was AWESOME!!!!

 

From: wdgc@... [mailto:wdgc@...] On Behalf Of Everett Kaser
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:52 AM
To: evilhatechild
Subject: Re: [wdgc] Presidents cup was fun. Thank you Everett

 

 

evilhatechild wrote...
> Everett is the man...

You're too kind. Really. Makes me think you want something... :-)

> My favorite hole was tourney hole 18 (from 4's teepad to 2's basket).
> It was an exciting hole, just the thing that the women and children
> back home like to see.

Me, too. While I had a great day (enjoyment-wise), my playing sucked
wind, the kind of crap you'd expect to see from Kelly. BUT... on my
last hole of the day (the above mentioned #18, since I started on #1),
I threw the most beautiful forehand, level and straight as an arrow,
right through the gap and dropped it six feet from the basket. If
you can only have one good hole per day, having it be the final one
is probably best.

> No keg? Did no one give Mark an official invite?

Actually I did. After last year, when he barely made it because he
didn't hear about it until the day before, I made a point of calling
him this year and giving him a personal invite. He ended up having
another engagement he couldn't avoid.

> Thanks again Everett.

No, thank YOU, Mike, for loaning the use of your pop-up AND the
propane heater that helped keep me warm during the morning registration!

Also a big thanks to Dave Pittman, who helped me put out the temporary
tee-pads and signs, and who (even though he couldn't play) showed up
to help with the scoring, the pay-outs/scrip, and the discs, BIG help!

Another thanks to Inspector Smith and Kim Halsey for sticking around
and helping to round up a bunch of the signs and one of the tee-pads!

And, thanks to Jay, Nate and Kelly for the loan of their baskets!

It was a great day and a great group of people!

Everett

======================================================================
Everett Kaser Software Logic & Puzzle Games for computers
PO Box 403
Albany OR 97321-0117 Phone: 541-928-5259 8am-8pm PACIFIC TIME
USA http://www.kaser.com
======================================================================


Re: Presidents cup was fun. Thank you Everett

 

evilhatechild wrote...
Everett is the man...
You're too kind. Really. Makes me think you want something... :-)

My favorite hole was tourney hole 18 (from 4's teepad to 2's basket).
It was an exciting hole, just the thing that the women and children
back home like to see.
Me, too. While I had a great day (enjoyment-wise), my playing sucked
wind, the kind of crap you'd expect to see from Kelly. BUT... on my
last hole of the day (the above mentioned #18, since I started on #1),
I threw the most beautiful forehand, level and straight as an arrow,
right through the gap and dropped it six feet from the basket. If
you can only have one good hole per day, having it be the final one
is probably best.

No keg? Did no one give Mark an official invite?
Actually I did. After last year, when he barely made it because he
didn't hear about it until the day before, I made a point of calling
him this year and giving him a personal invite. He ended up having
another engagement he couldn't avoid.

Thanks again Everett.
No, thank YOU, Mike, for loaning the use of your pop-up AND the
propane heater that helped keep me warm during the morning registration!

Also a big thanks to Dave Pittman, who helped me put out the temporary
tee-pads and signs, and who (even though he couldn't play) showed up
to help with the scoring, the pay-outs/scrip, and the discs, BIG help!

Another thanks to Inspector Smith and Kim Halsey for sticking around
and helping to round up a bunch of the signs and one of the tee-pads!

And, thanks to Jay, Nate and Kelly for the loan of their baskets!

It was a great day and a great group of people!

Everett

======================================================================
Everett Kaser Software Logic & Puzzle Games for computers
PO Box 403
Albany OR 97321-0117 Phone: 541-928-5259 8am-8pm PACIFIC TIME
USA http://www.kaser.com
======================================================================


Presidents cup was fun. Thank you Everett

Mike Storrs
 

Everett is the man. He set up the course weeks in advance for everyone to practice. He dialed up awesome weather. He ran a smooth tournament. We were all done and home before the sun set. A great way to say goodby to one of the greatest club prez's ever.

I had a great time except for the hole that used 11's basket (tourney hole 9?). My favorite hole was tourney hole 18 (from 4's teepad to 2's basket). It was an exciting hole, just the thing that the women and children back home like to see. I was in the finals of the ace pot/putting contest and lost to a guy from Philomath. I had two chances to win it but he needed the money more.

The turnout was perfect for golfers like me who don't like standing around waiting. The lunch was a bit suspect though. No keg? Did no one give Mark an official invite? Gibson was there but he didn't bring a bbq with him, again. Ironic too since his job is to feed people with other peoples donated money.

Thanks again Everett.
Mike Storrs.


Review of Wilder Disc Golf Course

Jay Sexton
 

WDGC folk,
 
Nate and Jay Sexton went over to the Grand Opening of the Wilder Disc Golf Course in Newport.
 
To get to the Wilder Disc Golf Course head south on Hwy 101, and 1/2 mile south of the south end of the Yaquina Bay bridge turn left (east) on 40th St. At this junction there is a very large boat on the left of Hwy 101 - a great way to recognize the turn. Drive up this road 1/2 mile and park at the road side just as you get to a fenced dog park on your right. There is a white sign for the Wilder Dog Park and across the street is a very similar sign for the Wilder Disc Golf Course. The first tee is 50 feet east of the sign and the course is almost entirely within the woods on the east side of the road. Also, for your peace of mind - this course is up a tsunami evacuation route - and so a tsunami would not interrupt your play, as long as the sirens do not disturb your putt.
 
Over all this is a nice, new, raw, technical, woodsy course with 18 DiscCatcher Pro baskets and a practice basket near tee #1. It is a great addition to the local disc golf courses and provides a DG outlet for visitors to the central coast, which has been a disc golf desert.
This course is in typical thick, second growth, coastal forest of Hemlock, Spruce, and some Shore Pine and Doug-fir with undergrowth of Salal, ferns, and Salmonberry. The ground is challenging to walk on with massive ammounts of down wood in all stages of decomposition, and old logging trails and slash. The ravines, through which this course plays, add great interest, but also make traveling some of the fairways difficult. Ninety percent of the steps you take on this course require concentration. It is not a course for people who might have difficulty moving over rough ground.
 
The map at http://yaquinawavelength.com/wp-content/uploads/Wilder-Course-layout.jpg is helpful for finding your way through the course.
The tees all have tee signs with good maps, but the paths to the next tees are not obvious, and several of the baskets are hidden from the tee. The distances on the map and on the tee signs are not to be trusted - we estimated that there were errors of up to 75 feet on distances. As of this writing the sponsorship signs were not yet on the holes.
The majority of holes should be scouted before throwing and spotters are highly recommended for several of the holes in which a VERY SERIOUS RAVINE comes into play.
Very visible disc colors are also highly recommended as thick Salal, ferns, and logs make the rough formidable.
 
The tees are mixes of gravel and wood chips in a defined box of logs - this is probably the weakest aspect of this course. Design is good
with holes 7, 8, and 9 being the prettiest on the course. The two longer holes are listed on the tees as par 4, but over all, this course plays as a par 54, rather than a 56.
The fairways have significant numbers of trees and tree strikes on the ravine holes can have punishing consequences. Most of the holes are in the mid 200 foot distances, with one at about 400 feet and two holes under 200. A frightening ravine comes into play on holes 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, and 8, and these holes need to be played with well positioned spotters to increase the odds that a ravine bound disc will be returned to your bag. These holes need to be played with avoidance of the ravine uppermost in your mind.
 
Many players may despair that this course demands more control than they are capable of delivering. It will test your ability to escape difficult predicaments, which are the result of lapses in your control. The tees will not allow you to make run ups, but the lengths of the majority of these holes do not require power. This course is a puzzle requiring finesse, and providing a delightful disc golf experience in the wilds of the coastal forest.
 
Nate played the course with a first round -5 and a second round -10 with an unbroken string of birdies from hole 6 through 15, and I played a -1 and a -2 round.
The -10 is the new course record, but Nate feels a -16 is possible. All these scores are assuming a 54 par - so based on the tee signs Nate was -7 and -12, and I was -3 and -4.
 
It is a fun and challenging course. Tell any locals you might see that you appreciate the substantial effort, (in fundraising, negotiation, brush clearing, and stair and fairway building) that went into this ambitious course.
 
Here is a link to a coastal newspaper article when the plans for the DG project were first publicized:
 
 


Doubles is at WILLAMETTE this Sunday!, 12/9/2012, 11:00 am

wdgc@...
 

Reminder from:   wdgc Yahoo! Group
 
Title:   Doubles is at WILLAMETTE this Sunday!
 
Date:   Sunday December 9, 2012
Time:   11:00 am - 12:00 pm
Notes:   Ignore the other reminder, it's an idiot. Doubles is at WILLAMETTE this Sunday, NOT at Adair!
 
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Doubles is at WILLAMETTE this Sunday!, 12/9/2012, 11:00 am

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Reminder from:   wdgc Yahoo! Group
 
Title:   Doubles is at WILLAMETTE this Sunday!
 
Date:   Sunday December 9, 2012
Time:   11:00 am - 12:00 pm
Notes:   Ignore the other reminder, it's an idiot. Doubles is at WILLAMETTE this Sunday, NOT at Adair!
 
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President's Cup

 

Weather's looking good! Low of 38 tonight, 20% chance of showers
tomorrow morning before 10am, then partly sunny with high around 46,
and a 5mph breeze. Couldn't hope for much better in December!

I'll be out there this afternoon getting some last minute touches in
place, then will be out there by 7:00am tomorrow, ready to register
and organize. Player's meeting 8:15, shotgun start at 8:45.

Bring your own lunch, afternoon round starts between 12:30 and 1:00,
depending upon how the morning round goes.

If no one wins the Ace pot, all the money from Ace pot and Mulligans
will be up for grabs in a sudden-death put-off!

Lot's of room for everyone, lots of challenge on a new course layout.

I hope to see you out there!!!

Everett

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Re: 2012 President's Stein

 

Andre wrote...
Is the presidents cup set-up going to be located in the northwest picnic/event area?
No, tournament-central will be beside the #1 tee parking lot.
The 'lower' parking lot will be closed off (for driving from tee #9,
which is located up by regular #12 basket, down to regular #5-long),
so anyone that can't park in the #1 parking lot will have to park
over behind the baseball diamond and hoof it. So hopefully folks will
be considerate and park as close and neatly as possible, so as to
allow as many folks as possible to park in the #1 lot. Car-pooling,
if possible, would also help.

Everett

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Re: 2012 President's Stein

 

evilhatechild wrote...
Lets shoot for just before sunset. How about 4pm?
Works for me, but will that give us enough time to get everything set
up? I may be out there earlier than that anyway, getting a few other
things set up. See you late tomorrow afternoon.

Everett

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Re: 2012 President's Stein

Andre Sampier
 

Is the presidents cup set-up going to be located in the northwest picnic/event area?

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 6, 2012, at 9:27 AM, "evilhatechild" <mikestorrs@...> wrote:

 

Lets shoot for just before sunset. How about 4pm?

--- In wdgc@..., Everett Kaser wrote:
>
> > I wanted to get the pop ups up Friday. I have the day off and can
> > meet you out there at just about anytime the lady lets me go. I
> > have two pop ups, one with a wall, and some tarps for the other
> > walls and a propane heater. It should be a very comfy place and a
> > bit overkill since "they" say only 30% chance of rain.
>
> I can probably be out there just about any time you can (or want to).
> Don't know yet if I'll be playing tomorrow or not, but I can probably
> work that around putting up the pop-ups. You're right, we could
> probably get by without them, but they'd sure be nice 'insurance'.
>
> Is there a time you'd prefer? (I'll be in-and-out of touch today,
> but I'll certainly confirm your preferred time by this evening, at
> latest.) I'm thinking mid- to late-afternoon might be best, as that
> would lower the likelihood of anyone messing with them.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Everett
>
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> PO Box 403
> Albany OR 97321-0117 Phone: 541-928-5259 8am-8pm PACIFIC TIME
> USA http://www.kaser.com
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>


Re: 2012 President's Stein

Mike Storrs
 

Lets shoot for just before sunset. How about 4pm?

--- In wdgc@..., Everett Kaser <everett@...> wrote:

I wanted to get the pop ups up Friday. I have the day off and can
meet you out there at just about anytime the lady lets me go. I
have two pop ups, one with a wall, and some tarps for the other
walls and a propane heater. It should be a very comfy place and a
bit overkill since "they" say only 30% chance of rain.
I can probably be out there just about any time you can (or want to).
Don't know yet if I'll be playing tomorrow or not, but I can probably
work that around putting up the pop-ups. You're right, we could
probably get by without them, but they'd sure be nice 'insurance'.

Is there a time you'd prefer? (I'll be in-and-out of touch today,
but I'll certainly confirm your preferred time by this evening, at
latest.) I'm thinking mid- to late-afternoon might be best, as that
would lower the likelihood of anyone messing with them.

Thanks!

Everett

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Everett Kaser Software Logic & Puzzle Games for computers
PO Box 403
Albany OR 97321-0117 Phone: 541-928-5259 8am-8pm PACIFIC TIME
USA http://www.kaser.com
======================================================================


Re: 2012 President's Stein

 

I wanted to get the pop ups up Friday. I have the day off and can
meet you out there at just about anytime the lady lets me go. I
have two pop ups, one with a wall, and some tarps for the other
walls and a propane heater. It should be a very comfy place and a
bit overkill since "they" say only 30% chance of rain.
I can probably be out there just about any time you can (or want to).
Don't know yet if I'll be playing tomorrow or not, but I can probably
work that around putting up the pop-ups. You're right, we could
probably get by without them, but they'd sure be nice 'insurance'.

Is there a time you'd prefer? (I'll be in-and-out of touch today,
but I'll certainly confirm your preferred time by this evening, at
latest.) I'm thinking mid- to late-afternoon might be best, as that
would lower the likelihood of anyone messing with them.

Thanks!

Everett

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PO Box 403
Albany OR 97321-0117 Phone: 541-928-5259 8am-8pm PACIFIC TIME
USA http://www.kaser.com
======================================================================


2012 President's Stein

Mike Storrs
 

Everette, I wanted to get the pop ups up Friday. I have the day off and can meet you out there at just about anytime the lady lets me go. I have two pop ups, one with a wall, and some tarps for the other walls and a propane heater. It should be a very comfy place and a bit overkill since "they" say only 30% chance of rain.


Re: Disc finders

Eric Smith
 

Chirp chirp 

Eric 

On Dec 5, 2012, at 6:33 PM, "Christiansen, Kelly" <Kelly.Christiansen@...> wrote:

 

Pat Powers anyone?

(sorry, that's a super double inside joke that only a few will get!)

kc
________________________________________
From: wdgc@... [wdgc@...] on behalf of Everett Kaser [everett@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 4:34 PM
To: WDGC
Subject: [wdgc] Disc finders

I've just found the device we've ALL been wanting... it just needs
to get molded into our discs. About 1" in diameter and about
1/6" thick, weighing 4.5g, works up to 100 feet away, with a little
work they could potentially be stuck to the bottom-center of a disc:

StickNFinds are Bluetooth location stickers the diameter of a quarter
(but thicker than a quarter). You attach them to television remote
controls, pets, children, or other things that you need to locate.
The batteries last about a year. The StickNFind smart phone application
helps you find your missing items and life forms.
More info: http://www.indiegogo.com/sticknfind

Everett

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PO Box 403
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Re: Disc finders

Kelly Christiansen
 

Pat Powers anyone?

(sorry, that's a super double inside joke that only a few will get!)

kc
________________________________________
From: wdgc@... [wdgc@...] on behalf of Everett Kaser [everett@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 4:34 PM
To: WDGC
Subject: [wdgc] Disc finders

I've just found the device we've ALL been wanting... it just needs
to get molded into our discs. About 1" in diameter and about
1/6" thick, weighing 4.5g, works up to 100 feet away, with a little
work they could potentially be stuck to the bottom-center of a disc:

StickNFinds are Bluetooth location stickers the diameter of a quarter
(but thicker than a quarter). You attach them to television remote
controls, pets, children, or other things that you need to locate.
The batteries last about a year. The StickNFind smart phone application
helps you find your missing items and life forms.
More info: http://www.indiegogo.com/sticknfind

Everett

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PO Box 403
Albany OR 97321-0117 Phone: 541-928-5259 8am-8pm PACIFIC TIME
USA http://www.kaser.com
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Disc finders

 

I've just found the device we've ALL been wanting... it just needs
to get molded into our discs. About 1" in diameter and about
1/6" thick, weighing 4.5g, works up to 100 feet away, with a little
work they could potentially be stuck to the bottom-center of a disc:

StickNFinds are Bluetooth location stickers the diameter of a quarter
(but thicker than a quarter). You attach them to television remote
controls, pets, children, or other things that you need to locate.
The batteries last about a year. The StickNFind smart phone application
helps you find your missing items and life forms.
More info: http://www.indiegogo.com/sticknfind

Everett

======================================================================
Everett Kaser Software Logic & Puzzle Games for computers
PO Box 403
Albany OR 97321-0117 Phone: 541-928-5259 8am-8pm PACIFIC TIME
USA http://www.kaser.com
======================================================================


Re: Willamette Signs

Eric Smith
 

I believe the vote last night was to move forward with this sign without hooks so, let's do it. 

Eric 

On Dec 4, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Everett Kaser <everett@...> wrote:

 

Eric wrote...
> I wasn't at the November meeting.
> $2500.00 + posts + fasteners + concrete = ?

Memory gets weak as you approach my advanced age, but I *think* the
$2500 estimate was inclusive of those... but not positive. Greg A.
could verify that.

My understanding is that the PRIMARY issue here is NOT appearance,
but rather RUGGEDNESS, due to the high likelihood of vandalism of
the signs at Willamette (due to the high traffic of frat boys and
other disreputable types like carpenters and graphics designers).

With that in mind, the THICK METAL with the information cut into
the metal is least likely to get vandalized. Anything that's wood,
vinyl, painted, etc, can be very easily vandalized, no matter how
much prettier it is to start with.

We've been discussing this for at least three months, and have twice
voted to continue forward with them (based upon the above reasons).
Abe is contributing his labor free, and his "window of opportunity"
(opening in work schedule) is upon us. If we keep dilly-dallying,
we may be waiting a long while before the opportunity comes again.

I understand (and agree with) the opinions that other signs would
LOOK BETTER and very likely be CHEAPER, but looks and price are not
the only criteria. We've gotten away with it at Adair, because the
vandal-types apparently don't know how to drive or don't have money
to buy gas. But (from everything I've heard), vandalism is a major
problem at Willamette, and it won't do us much good to put up pretty
signs that aren't going to last.

Everett

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Re: Willamette Signs

 

Eric wrote...
I wasn't at the November meeting.
$2500.00 + posts + fasteners + concrete = ?
Memory gets weak as you approach my advanced age, but I *think* the
$2500 estimate was inclusive of those... but not positive. Greg A.
could verify that.

My understanding is that the PRIMARY issue here is NOT appearance,
but rather RUGGEDNESS, due to the high likelihood of vandalism of
the signs at Willamette (due to the high traffic of frat boys and
other disreputable types like carpenters and graphics designers).

With that in mind, the THICK METAL with the information cut into
the metal is least likely to get vandalized. Anything that's wood,
vinyl, painted, etc, can be very easily vandalized, no matter how
much prettier it is to start with.

We've been discussing this for at least three months, and have twice
voted to continue forward with them (based upon the above reasons).
Abe is contributing his labor free, and his "window of opportunity"
(opening in work schedule) is upon us. If we keep dilly-dallying,
we may be waiting a long while before the opportunity comes again.

I understand (and agree with) the opinions that other signs would
LOOK BETTER and very likely be CHEAPER, but looks and price are not
the only criteria. We've gotten away with it at Adair, because the
vandal-types apparently don't know how to drive or don't have money
to buy gas. But (from everything I've heard), vandalism is a major
problem at Willamette, and it won't do us much good to put up pretty
signs that aren't going to last.

Everett

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PO Box 403
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USA http://www.kaser.com
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Re: Willamette Signs

Andre Sampier
 

Someone with GIS skills could handle the course layouts.  Whomever does the work on the layouts should consider importing an aerial photo of the hole layout as the base layer and then add special feaures via digital editing, ect. that could highlight the unique features of each hole....certain trees, ephemeral drainages, elevation contours, etc.     

From: evilhatechild
To: wdgc@...
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 11:46 AM
Subject: [wdgc] Re: Willamette Signs
 
My favorite tee signs are at Whistlers Bend.  Linky Linky. 

Mike Storrs.

--- In wdgc@..., "Sexton Hoyman Weedman" wrote:>> I could not find a close approximation of the proposed willamette sign but here are what I did find:>

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